No owner is changing that. Every FA in Swansons class is going to be more expensive than he will. 2023 Pre Arb year $1 million (yes, MLB minimum is $700k) Salary, Earnings Spencer Strider undoubtedly earns a substantial sum of money from his sole career in baseball. Sunday marked the first time Strider had thrown off a mound since his Sept. 18 start against Philadelphia. Its not their young pitching, its pitching in general. A Super Two is in the top 22 percent (in terms of service time not performance) of all players in their service class during the offseason that they have at least 2 but less than 3 years of service time. The Phillies are a bunch of try-hards. Then he will still have one more arb year after that. If they had done the same with Jurrjens or Hanson or Wood this wouldnt have gone well. Another problem is the harder you throw, the more stress you put on your arm and the more likely you are to get injured. So yeah, cost of living is a factor. A year ago, the Super 2 status was set a 2 years and 116 days, which is about normal, even low in recent years with most Super 2 status cutoffs falling in the 130s. Now stand in the corner and think about what youve learned today. Besides, they could just as easily lock up those years of free agency at a somewhat higher but much less risky price by just waiting a year or two to make sure hes for real. Says who? even $50M. Spencer pitched as a long reliever and starter, was a three-time ACC Academic Honor Roll member, and appeared in 26 games with 10 starts, totaling 63.0 innings pitched. Here it is again, for your convenience. I will let you do the math. Baseball will become a joke as far as competition is concerned. The average Plug and Play Tech Center salary ranges from approximately $53,527 per year for an Intern to $304,574 per year for a Director. Players dont sign team friendly controls anymore (Jose Ramirez says youre wrong). The rule is if a player finishes 2 top in the ROY balloting he is credited with a full year of service time regardless of the number of days he actually spent in the majors. But Swanson is not nearly as good as those guys. Its called creative license. The only way he wouldnt is with a long demotion next year. To your point, Strider hasnt come close to earning it, hes shown PROMISE, not sustained success. When hes banging 25-30 HRs, hell be at best a mid-.800 OPS, nowhere near the $40M/year people believe he will get! He is going to see a huge raise to around $25 million this offseason. Most rookies dont end up becoming Aaron Judge BTW. It looks good for these first few years and probably bad for the last 2-3, but overall seems like a good value. Worry about your own team of aging stars and average players. Get it done AA. eligible. Your proof of value starts with if. They arent regretting losing Rendon. Kris Bryant and Cody Bellinger were Super Twos, for instance, being arb eligible four times as opposed to the usual three. There are way too many moving pieces to just guarantee blowing past the luxury tax. Sure, they have control of Fried/Wright (even via arb), but Strider is the first long-term arm. Spencer Strider Rumors & News Bats: R Throws: R Height: 72 Weight: 195 Age 23 Seasons: 1 Salary: 570,500 Birthplace: Columbus, Ohio College: Clemson Rumors & News Videos Photos TalkingChop Feb 8, 2023 Daily Hammer Podcast: The Braves Could Feature Some of the Best Brands in Baseball Strider has two pitches and has started for 2/3 of a season. 18 Have the Braves not noticed how many of their young pitchers have fallen apart after 2-3 years over the last two decades? They're projected to have a league-high $61.7 million in salary-cap space, . His club finished the season with an 88-73 record, finally winning the 2021 World Series, giving the team its first title since the initial victory in 1995. Its a league funded thing that every team will chip into $1.66 mil regardless. If youre Swanson, coming off this type of 2021-22 performance, why would you sign for any less than Trevor Story and Javier Baez received last winter ($140MM over six years)? Doubt theres one single reason that either the Braves or Strider decided this was the best course of action other than it benefits both parties. If his option is exercised, the deal will be worth $92 million over seven years. Beginning in '26, his salary will rise to $20 million, and it will rise to $22 million for the next two seasons. The 2029 option comes with a $5MM buyout, which is factored into the guaranteed portion of the contract. Rich teams have figured this out. If you dont you price yourself out of future contracts by playing the waiting game. In terms of his personal life, he is in a relationship with Maggie, a young and lovely girl. Cost of living adjustments are more for your average person. Darius Vines, RHP 5. Other then that what aging crap did we sign? I do think its a little harder in Boston/New York because success there translates to big dollars everywhere. But those decisions and everything will be up to the team, of course, and how we want to plan for the series and stuff. Additionally. Not me. Cano signed with Seattle, the Mets were just dumb enough to trade for him. 33. They could or locked judge up years ago now they are going to pay for it or not pay for it and lose their star. Braves fans will be the first ones screaming when all these long term signing dont work out and the team starts getting hamstrung. Players use that as a bargaining tactic all the time. You are making a lot of wild assumptions. Name those Braves fans who felt that way. All of these pitchers threw almost as hard if not equally as hard as Strider, all had varying degrees of success, and none of them even made $40M in arbitration. Atlanta, of course, had previously already signed outfielder Ronald Acuna Jr. and second baseman Ozzie Albies to club-friendly extensions. Not sure what your point is, but throwing 100 mph doesnt mean crap for a number of reasons, one there are guys like Mauricio Cabrera:, Bruce Rondn, Henry Alberto Rodriguez:, Joel Zumaya:, Tayron Guerrero, Bobby Parnell, who have touched 103 mph and none have made anywhere near that money and all had problems turning velocity into results. $20M (2027) We cant complain about how a big corporation treats people and not acknowledge when they get it right. They already have the best cost control in baseball. While Strider was certainly pleased with the contract, the satisfaction he felt Monday extended to the fact that it appears he will be available to pitch in some role during the NLDS, which begins on Tuesday against the Phillies. The Mets and Braves won the same number of games in the season, and the same in number in October. Braves fans awoke on Monday looking forward to learning more about Striders health and potential availability during the NLDS. MFF thing is, for Swanson the Braves arent going to go near what hell be offered elsewhere. He will finish the year with exactly ONE FULL YEAR OF SERVICE!! It will cost money next year. Our reasoning for presenting offensive logos. 11h. The Braves also surely are still hopeful of extending Fried, whos controlled through the 2024 season. Albies was cheap and smart. He only hit the first two weeks he was up. Is MLB ok with them now? J.R. Ritchie, RHP 3. LOL best rookie season ever. As in a guy that says no to everything that people tell them. If you want to be a continuing part of this Braves dynasty, youll need to give us a discount. SPENCER AGUIAR. I expect to see him elsewhere next year. Same for TrumboJumbo w/the Angels and Yankee Clipper w/the Yanks. Conversely, How about them Mets? He wouldnt get anywhere near the same amount of extra money in bonuses, and thats assuming he remains good enough to get additional bonuses after this year. Ask Trevor Rogers who faceplanted in 2022. People who dont have money always assume having money means being reckless with it, but those that have wealth and maintain their wealth, never spend it frivolously. Meanwhile Cohen will spend even more and have a $400 mil opening day payroll lol. Its one thing to find a new way to add money for the young guys, its another to say Julio Rodriguez should get a bigger 1st arb year because he was better two years ago. Strider threw his changeup 109 times in 2022 and, among pitchers who threw at least that many, his 47.5% miss rate when . Inning 3: Salary-cap drafts Inning 4: Preparation . So the only time he could qualify for Super 2 status is after 2023. I have faith in you to sign you right now. Acuna had a 41/37 season after he signed, and was in his way to winning the MVP last year before the injury. Harvey was highly regarded as top prospect while Strider was considered middle reliever until may. Since 2020 was a short season lets take the last 4 seasons. Spencer Strider (left) and Michael Harris II are vying to give the Braves their seventh National League Rookie of the Year. My stupid destined to be wrong estimate is7 years @160 mill. So by that logic, if you are making $500K/year, you would buy a Snickers bar for $10 because you have lots of money? Troll on books. Cole has stated since he was in UCLA that he was a Yankee fan and wanted to be in pinstripes when he grew up, he was even drafted by the Yankees and chose college ball, but said it was a tough choice and hoped hed end up there eventually. Considering Burnes won a Cy Young and has had a microscopic ERA for three straight seasons with a career FIP of 2.85, thats probably the 85 percentile of Strider reaching his potential, IF you buy into one season of work and think hes a generational pitcher. $14M (2026) Similar thing happened last year when LAD needed to replace Corey Seagers offense by sliding Muncy over and signing Freeman at half the price. Noah Syndergaards arb years: $3M (2018), $6M (2019), $9.7M x 2 (2020 & 2021). Its possible but I wouldnt go as far as to say its likely. His 182Ks this year feels more Stantonian than it should for a mid-range power hitter like Swanson. Hes going to get over paid by somebody. OR they could extend him now for what amounts to 7/87. Strider and Braves teammate Michael Harris II are very likely to finish first and second in the NL Rookie of the Year voting in either. Wouldve been a massive overpay. $22M (2027) Now ask him why he comments as Pads Fans and BaseballIsLife! In Braves speak, that means hes hitting FA. If another team over values him based on his 2 week debut, the Braves should deal him. The earliest Strider could have been arb eligible was after 2024. It very well could be a bad deal for his team if he cant continue the level of dominance he showed this year or has constant injury problems. What about Georgias racist voting rights? Hopefully he also didnt mean Scherzer, one terrible wildcard game from an elite pitcher like him still doesnt make him crap. They also made a couple great trades getting future star players that wear near MLB ready (Dansby/Fried). Does AA hypnotize these guys agents when theyre in the waiting room? Then you see it wrong, they are ALREADY PAYING HIM top dollar in this deal. $1M (2024) The players are definitely buying what the Braves are selling. The Braves and Mets both won 101 games. 2027: $20-22M. That wont continue. Definitely one of the best pitchers in the game but when it truly matters he crumbled. Theyve been doing well to develop revenue streams and having them as serious generators by the time the current contract is up, and when a new one is signed, they should be up there in annual budgets (and profitability). https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2955053-mlb-predictions-2022-updated-win-loss-projections-for-every-team, https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/2022-mlb-predictions-expert-picks-for-division-winners-and-world-series-champion-ahead-of-opening-day/, Thanks RunDMC, that is pretty lousy that Amy writer had the Mets ahead of the defending WS champions. Matt Harvey had a higher ERA and lower K/9 and higher BB/9 in his first season. He easily would have been a Super 2 as well. Thanks. He will receive an extra year of service time for that. Salaries Awards Draft Leaderboards Cards Proper Name: Spencer Robert Strider High Level: MLB (2021-2022) Positions: P (55) Height: 6-0 Weight: 195 Bats: Right Throws: Right Born: Oct 28,1998 age: 24.116 place: Columbus,OH High School: Christian Academy of Knoxville (Knoxville,TN) colleges: Clemson University (Clemson,SC), Drafted: If the Braves want to repeat as back-to-back champions, they will need Strider to pitch up to his capabilities. Knowing you have certain players locked allows for more flexibility. Dansby is gone. Only long term deal we signed was lindor who is young in his prime. I was comparing their first full seasons. Was hoping this thread would continue without trolls insulting one another instead of adding actual substance to their argument. The Braves have extended yet another key member of their impressive young core, this time announcing a six-year, $75MM contract for right-hander Spencer Strider. But for every Newcomb, Folty, Wisler,and Touki that theyve missed on I think theyre happy to trade that off with Fried, Wright, Minter, and to a lesser extent Anderson and Elder. (Machado can opt out of his deal with the Friars after next year, so the Padres 2028 commitments may not end up being quite so large.) I think there is some advantage, that doesnt show up on the balance sheet, when you lock in your young players. On the surface it seems like the Braves have made several excellent long-term deals with young talent. Google elude. Ugh! Au contraire it is you who needs to check their info. Braves are the smartest team in baseball. As usual, i was right. If that happens this is even worse of a deal than it looks like at first blush. I dont always disagree w/you. Angels were very much in the running for Cole. With Striders salaries now set through the 2028 season, the Braves, incredibly, already have $76MM on the books six years down the line. They have a big part of their core locked up for years and have set themselves on the path to being contenders for the next five years minimum. Strider finished with a 11-5 record, 2.62 ERA and a 1.00 WHIP through 31 games. I disagree with this because the Mets basically played .600 most of the season. @MJ: If you look at it from Striders perspective, hed be making a lot more money, regardless of where it comes from. Strider earned his first and only win of the season on the final day of the season while pitching in relief for the Mets. Spencer Strider was born on October 28, 1998. All of this doesnt even take into consideration if hes not an inner-circle HOF pitcher and has a fall off like Trevor Rogers. Thats more than any other team in baseball. I would imagine the MLBPA, other pitchers around the league, and the agents that represent those pitchers are all thrilled to see this contract. Plus, he didn't love being so young and already dependent on medication for daily life. It's also available for football, basketball and hockey. He should call Chaim Bloom and give him instructions. By 9:30 a.m. In Texas, the nicest home I can find in the Dallas area is 20,000 sq ft for $14M.